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Message 2695 - Posted: 2 Apr 2025, 12:12:39 UTC - in response to Message 2692.  

What do you mean no science? His work is way different than anything else on here......So I don't know where you get the idea of no science.


If they don't validate the wus, they have NOT scientific results of their simulations.
And, if you don't have scientific results you have not science.
It's simple.


I don't know where you get the idea they are not validated.
The tasks are. I have only 3 pending.
Quit being impatient. This project works just like all the rest tasks come out, we process them and send them back. Their system processes them as it is programed to do. Tasks require 2 machines to process the results and then the task is put in queue for validation. Is that done by a human or a computer, I don't know. But I know he will not let the data go to waste.
This project is watched over much better than Rosetta which is a orphan child project now after being the leader for so long.
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Message 2696 - Posted: 2 Apr 2025, 13:29:31 UTC - in response to Message 2695.  

I don't know where you get the idea they are not validated.

Until yesterday there are over 40k wus in validation pending.

Quit being impatient.

I'm not impatient. I only said that, for me, is more important the scientific part than the credits. That's all.

This project is watched over much better than Rosetta which is a orphan child project now after being the leader for so long.

That's for sure!!
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Message 2700 - Posted: 2 Apr 2025, 15:13:30 UTC - in response to Message 2696.  

We have managed to clear the validation queue. Indeed, if we do not validate them, BOINC does not generate the results file... And that is our bottleneck when the hard drive fills up: without space, the server does not function properly, so it cannot validate, and there is no results file to extract from the server, which does not help to clear it...
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Message 2706 - Posted: 2 Apr 2025, 19:44:04 UTC - in response to Message 2700.  

We have managed to clear the validation queue. Indeed, if we do not validate them, BOINC does not generate the results file... And that is our bottleneck when the hard drive fills up: without space, the server does not function properly, so it cannot validate, and there is no results file to extract from the server, which does not help to clear it...
Well, there is still no new work and there still is not an external statistics update... :(
Still a space problem?

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Message 2707 - Posted: 2 Apr 2025, 22:36:25 UTC - in response to Message 2700.  

We have managed to clear the validation queue. Indeed, if we do not validate them, BOINC does not generate the results file... And that is our bottleneck when the hard drive fills up: without space, the server does not function properly, so it cannot validate, and there is no results file to extract from the server, which does not help to clear it...


Are you getting to much data back to fast for your disk?
Is there funding for an upgrade?
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Message 2708 - Posted: 2 Apr 2025, 22:56:35 UTC - in response to Message 2706.  

Well, there is still no new work and there still is not an external statistics update... :(
Still a space problem?

Ralf

Doesn't seem like you have bothered to read all the forum post by the project administrator/scientist.

The current science application is a work in progress and our job at time involves running the "test/beta" across various settings and different operating systems to identify potential issues. Sometimes different operating systems and/or computer hardware generate slightly different output.

As for the stats export and some computers not being able to receive work that was addressed here. Everything takes time to fix since they are at the mercy of the university IT Department.

Maybe this project is not for you since you think everything should be working at the 200+% level.

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Message 2709 - Posted: 3 Apr 2025, 0:03:30 UTC - in response to Message 2708.  

Maybe this project is not for you since you think everything should be working at the 200+% level.
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Message 2710 - Posted: 3 Apr 2025, 1:03:03 UTC - in response to Message 2706.  

Unlike some other projects, Jesus, the admin, has been very responsive to inquiries and issues throughout DENIS's inception.

A bit of patience and understanding is certainly reasonable here...
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Message 2712 - Posted: 3 Apr 2025, 1:42:30 UTC - in response to Message 2695.  
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What do you mean no science? His work is way different than anything else on here......So I don't know where you get the idea of no science.


If they don't validate the wus, they have NOT scientific results of their simulations.
And, if you don't have scientific results you have not science.
It's simple.


I don't know where you get the idea they are not validated.
The tasks are. I have only 3 pending.
Quit being impatient. This project works just like all the rest tasks come out, we process them and send them back. Their system processes them as it is programed to do. Tasks require 2 machines to process the results and then the task is put in queue for validation. Is that done by a human or a computer, I don't know. But I know he will not let the data go to waste.
This project is watched over much better than Rosetta which is a orphan child project now after being the leader for so long.


Boinc has a built-in system to validate the tasks but it does require Admin intervention to keep it running, whether they are using it, I'm guessing they are, or not doesn't matter that tasks ARE being validated! That means Science IS being performed, now whether it meets the Science they are hoping only an Admin can say. But for me I'm crunching here just like all the other Boinc Projects because I have no ability to do ANY Science Projects like Boinc has!!
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Message 2713 - Posted: 3 Apr 2025, 8:02:05 UTC - in response to Message 2712.  

What do you mean no science? His work is way different than anything else on here......So I don't know where you get the idea of no science.


If they don't validate the wus, they have NOT scientific results of their simulations.
And, if you don't have scientific results you have not science.
It's simple.


I don't know where you get the idea they are not validated.
The tasks are. I have only 3 pending.
Quit being impatient. This project works just like all the rest tasks come out, we process them and send them back. Their system processes them as it is programed to do. Tasks require 2 machines to process the results and then the task is put in queue for validation. Is that done by a human or a computer, I don't know. But I know he will not let the data go to waste.
This project is watched over much better than Rosetta which is a orphan child project now after being the leader for so long.


Boinc has a built-in system to validate the tasks but it does require Admin intervention to keep it running, whether they are using it, I'm guessing they are, or not doesn't matter that tasks ARE being validated! That means Science IS being performed, now whether it meets the Science they are hoping only an Admin can say. But for me I'm crunching here just like all the other Boinc Projects because I have no ability to do ANY Science Projects like Boinc has!!


Mikey...as you know there is a external project for protein folding you can run. But it is not with gridcoin. It is just its own world. But for non protein stuff, yeah BOINC is the only place I know of to crunch such stuff.
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