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Posts by bobbyb

1) Message boards : Number crunching : How do I get my stats? (Message 2368)
Posted 11 Apr 2024 by bobbyb
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The point of my initial post was not really about credits as such. I was trying to figure out the method used. I see different points for my 3900x than my 5950x on the same project whether it is Denis here or Rosetta or WCG and my concludion is that the 5950x is throttling itself.

My post Last modified: 9 Apr 2024, 18:02:26 UTC explains it.
https://denis.usj.es/denisathome/forum_thread.php?id=290&postid=2359
2) Message boards : Number crunching : How do I get my stats? (Message 2366)
Posted 10 Apr 2024 by bobbyb
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Is it possible that the machine which sends is different from the one which receives and one of them has not done the adjustment to summer time? I checked, Madrid is now on CEST (+2)
3) Message boards : Number crunching : How do I get my stats? (Message 2361)
Posted 9 Apr 2024 by bobbyb
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Europe is UTC+1. Since this project is in Spain his local time on the system is +1 to the UTC reported time
Yes I know. I've been there. I was wondering why both dates don't reflect this. There is a 3 hour difference between the sent time and receive time. My logs show a 2 hour difference between my received (download) time and my sent (upload) time respectively.

It was only a FYI comment. It makes no difference to anything.

Like this:
Name 	HuVeMOp_20240409142215232055_ORdInc_k_15-Pieske_1000-conf_131_1
Workunit 	19686803
Created 	9 Apr 2024, 12:39:59 UTC
Sent 	9 Apr 2024, 13:25:06 UTC
Report deadline 	12 Apr 2024, 13:25:06 UTC
Received 	9 Apr 2024, 15:36:13 UTC

MY TIME: UTC-4
2024-04-09 9:25:15 | DENIS@home | Starting task HuVeMOp_20240409142215232055_ORdInc_k_15-Pieske_1000-conf_131_1
2024-04-09 10:35:19 | DENIS@home | Computation for task HuVeMOp_20240409142215232055_ORdInc_k_15-Pieske_1000-conf_131_1 finished
4) Message boards : Number crunching : How do I get my stats? (Message 2359)
Posted 9 Apr 2024 by bobbyb
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I know about the 7x Boinc credits for WCG.

I was not trying to figure out the biggest bang for the buck between Boinc projects but just trying to figure out how each does it, matching it to what I see in my logs and their results and seeing if it all jives.

I think you are both saying the same thing as I did about WCG credits and Rosetta points and about your GPU vs CPU/FPU credits comparison: the more operations/second the more credits over a time period. This tells me each unit gets n credits and if you can chew up 10 units in a time period you get 10n credits but if the slower CPU/FPU (or low-end 4-core machine) only does 3 units in the same time period then it only gets 3n credits. Fair.

I've analysed all three now.
Both Denis and WCG report CPU/RUN times in the same manner where the 5950x is twice as long as the 3900x but the resulting credits are similar in points. This supports my theory that the 5950x is throttling itself. So I get less for less.

Funny that here, in Denis, the sent time matches my log start time but the time reported is one hour later than my log finished time. My suspicion is that the former is using my UTC offset which is -4 and the later is using UTC.

Now Rosetta must be using a fixed time WU. On my 4-core i5-2520M the run time is about 3 hours; same as my 5950x and 3900x. So I'm guessing it must know how much work gets done in that time and assigns credits accordingly. My 5950x gets less than the 3900x. Now this also supports my theory that the 5950x is throttling itself. Or does it use my Boinc benchmark which it stores in my profile for that computer. I'm waiting for more units to be available to test this.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : How do I get my stats? (Message 2347)
Posted 4 Apr 2024 by bobbyb
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I have no data for this project but I did find that Rosetta seems to give points based on time and floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU which it finds in in client_state.xml from <p_fpops> and <p_iops>. When you do a Boinc benchmark it stashes it there.

WCG seems to assign credits per job regardless of time.

It's written up in the hardware forum over there.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : How do I get my stats? (Message 2342)
Posted 4 Apr 2024 by bobbyb
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WOW that is quick. So I guess, unless you are on the top, you are SOL

I'm trying to figure out how Denis counts points vs WCG vs Rosetta as per my 5950x thread in WCG. I recognise your name and moniker.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : How do I get my stats? (Message 2340)
Posted 4 Apr 2024 by bobbyb
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I go to "Computers on this account" and select to view the stats for my computer: 229890.... and there is nothing.

If I go to top_hosts.php and select computer 237876, I see stats. So where can I find mine?

My last completed task was on 27-Mar-2024 06:35:09. I see entries for 26-Mar-2024 on computer 237876. I thought it might be related to date but not so.
8) Message boards : Cafe : Why DENIS? (Message 2160)
Posted 26 Jul 2023 by bobbyb
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I run Denis@home now because my 5 machines were running dry and were hungry so I am feeding it Denis.

My main project is World Community Grid but they seem to have problems again. Dead for about 5-6 days now. TN-Grid is on vacation, Rosetta has nothing, and neither does Milkyway and Milkyway is about stuff 100+ light years away. I prefer closer to home. Lastly there is SiDock. Lots of stuff but it is from Russia. Hmmmm! ...and each work unit is about 1 day long. UGH. I am weaning off SiDock now and limiting its share of resources until it runs out.

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